Fk Rand Paul, he has proven his traitorous ass to be nothing more than a POS.
Video is BS from start to finish, all lies. Rand Paul did not try to have them arrested. That punk kid kept harassing Rand after Rand said he couldn't talk. I don't support Rand's endorsement of Romney but I got over it and moved on. These people in the video are just trying to make a name for themselves. That is very obvious.
it wasn't "just" a question. It was more of an accusation, along the lines of, "How could you do something so horrible?" And the resulting footage was broadcast.
I like Luke, and Rand's reaction was over the top (typical, aggressive neocon power play.) That being said, if I were a public figure, I wouldn't want people coming up to me at random times, antagonizing me. Public figures ARE vulnerable to crazies who will use violence, so I can see why they have zero tolerance for confrontation.
What WeAreChange did is unprofessional.
It would be courteous if those that feel very strongly about these accusations towards Rand Paul would move their discussion to a forum where it would be more on topic. The rest of us want to focus on the upcoming convention, rallies, current legislation, and actions we must take to advance the cause of liberty - as laid out in the forum guidelines of the dailypaul.
I am not calling for banning anyone or any topic, but the website of the aggrieved journalists would be a more suitable place to express your anger. We're all watching Rand Paul's actions, so it's unnecessary for you to post and repost the same info over and over again. Thanks for your input. We are aware.
If you insist on regularly pointing out how Rand Paul has disappointed you, please create your own website devoted to just that. Stop littering the dailypaul with multiple threads (5!) on the same topic, repetitive posts, monotonous warnings, constant bumping, and demands that we all have to hate Rand Paul as much as you do.
and we will continue to express our agitation here.
Apparently, Michael Nystrom is okay with that. So if you don't like it, YOU can leave.
is what seals the deal this is cointelpro. Constant forum sliding. Forum sliding is the sure fire way to manipulate and control forums.
I don't do this much but here is my article explaining it, and why Luke and co have every reason to drive wedges in our movement.
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This is an Adam Kokesh move. There is no doubt that AK is behind this video and this "carve out".
There are various factions that are trying to capitalize on this movement and they are all vying for an audience.
Adam thinks that opposing Rand is a successful model.
B.J. Lawson thought the same thing.
Get used to it.
It only means that our support has value.
Carry on and God Bless.
. . .thank you for posting this, Deejay.
Somehow to not agree/support this traitor, Rand Paul, is somehow construed as NOT supporting Ron Paul. Apparently we're to pretend Rand is a great champion of liberty - while he sells us all out.
Throughout history great men (Ex: Benjamin Franklin) have had turncoat sons - people still supported the "great man" and bid the son ado.
I still support Ron Paul - all the way. However, I will NOT support the wrong his son has done. To me that flies in the face of EVERYTHING Ron Paul speaks.
FOR INSTANCE - listen to Ron Paul's speech from this week (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn1o2p9VBiw). He point blank said that sanctions are AN ACT OF WAR! Yet, his SON, voted FOR the sanctions. We are supposed to ignore this - and pretend Randal didn't do that? That's absurd - and has NO basis in anything that resembles common sense and/or reason.
Rand is a big boy - he can't hang on the coattails of his dad. Randal will either stand on his own or he will fall on his own - by the choices HE makes.
As far as I can see Rand Paul continues to make horrible choices - outside of his Father's wise counsel. I will not support it.
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“It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie...the greatest enemy of the State.” ~Joseph Goebbels
Speaking into a microphone softly and asking someone to answer a question they already didn't want to answer can be seen as harassment.
WeAreChange is in the business of WeAreChange. let me know when they actually help on constitutional issues.
the WeAreChange. find some new people to scam.
I just posted this minutes ago on We Are Change Victoria's site.
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We've doubled our Facebook group in the past year, now with over 300 engaged local activists fighting for liberty.
We were on CTV news last Friday for an event we hosted with Dr. Tim Ball who is against UN Agenda 21.
Did you know that WeAreChange now has 275 Chapters in 32 countries?
Watch this dry yet astonishing Dr. Robert Beck cancer treatment lecture on Google Video - search "Suppressed Medical Discovery" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkiX0jJJozk
there will be an well orchestrated campaign to discredit Rand before 2016. I Didn't think it would begin this early however.
If not us than who?
without needing a vast conspiracy to do it for him.
I don't play, I commission the league.
and having a bunch of neo cons metaphorically blowing your brains out.
I would choose Jena Jameson as my executioner.
We Are Change is a very credible group who is on the side of freedom lovers as well as truth seekers. They will interview anyone to try to get to the truth. It is a known fact that Rand spoke about Bilderberg and now he refuses to address it as if he never said a word about it or didn't even know who they were. Now the reference to RT, I have seen several pro Dr. Paul interviews and the most recent were discussing the Ron Paul delegates, but besides that there has been a lot of coverage that the other so called media does not address. I don't know what to think about the situation, because I like Rand and I think that he is off to a great start in the Senate. He definitely seems to be on our side. Maybe he did not remember the past interview with We Are Change and was reluctant to talk about Bilderberg again even if his father is not afraid to. I did a quick search on Youtube and came up with a rather large group of videos which are related to Ron Paul.
Rand Paul is a warmonger who endorsed ROMNEY.
I don't care who is asking him questions. He has an obligation to answer.
He is following Bilderberger agendas, so, being asked about that is fair game. It is absolutely ESSENTIAL for us to hear responses about how he feels about them.
It was obvious to me that his "only what I learned from Alex Jones" comment when asked about Bilderberg was meant to be derisive, and is FULLY IN LINE WITH THE BENTON, RAND, TRYGVE element in our movement that is working WITH the conspirators and using their standard M.O. of belittling anyone who questions them as "conspiracy nuts."
I guess he did give us an answer by refusing to answer!
NOTHING BUT A CONSPIRACY fully explains Rand's actions (and that of co-conspirators Benton and Olson) in torpedoing this campaign.
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And no one has ever provided evidence of motives, at that.
He is balancing a difficult game to play to both sides of the base. He has nothing he desires from the "other side", so basically, the only benefit he can get of this is to expose who the traitors are.
Yeah, they show a couple of 10 second clips of them being ignored. Who knows what promted Rand to ignore them.
Don't be so quick to call those within our ranks traitors. Rand is in deep, has more power than the average liberty supporter. There is an all out effort to squash liberty entirely.
There are some big wheels turning behind the scenes. Lets just let this all play out. As liberty supporters, our job is to keep pushing the message, to secure positions (we can only wish to get into a position such as Rand has), and collectively work towards our goal.
Build on what is good, and stop criticizing what might be construed as bad among our ranks. I see attacks galore on that lawyer guy...but hey, he's making a step for liberty. What have you done?
How Luke won't reveal what sort of pass he actually has. Why? Because it would show that he isn't allowed in there. That's why they got in trouble, and the girls pass was in jeopardy because of it. It's kind of obvious but everyone is looking at the politics because that is what is controversial and gets hits. Just ask Luke what his pass actually is and you'll get to the bottom of what really happened and not the inflated hype over Rand.
the woman who was threatened with arrest works for RT and probably does have legitimate press credentials.
So if I want to walk down the hall of a building owned by We the People and ask a question to a senator, I need some type of special permit to exercise my natural rights?
Again, you Rand cult defenders don't have a leg to stand on. Wild conspiracy theories and smears against Luke, who has done more for this movement than Rand, and actually anti-liberty statements like the one above. He needs permission from the state to exercise what is a natural right.
Luke is not a journalist he is an Alex Jones wannabe, he doesn't actually interview people he talks over them and ambushes them and then doesn't let them answer the question.
The professional thing to do would have been to make an appointment as he was asked to do. Fuck Luke Rudowski.
He majored in the color yellow.
other politician you can name. We have zero proof of these accusations, and yet he is presumed guilty. But of course you know nothing really about this situation but you choose to believe one person over the other. I wager you know none of the the parties personally and can not vouch for anyone's honesty within this dispute but you are positive you know who to trust and are positive you have all the facts of the matter.
I do know who I trust. Because Rands voting record speaks for itself. I'm not looking for perfection. But I am looking for liberty and person that works to bring that back to America.
Just who is the enemy anyway? Who is like minded and who is not. Is Rand someone who will get us closer to our goals? If not then who is better in the senate right now? Tell me. I want to know.
And if he is someone who will get us closer to our goals, then why on earth are we trying our level best to twist the knife we put in his back trying to sink it deeper? First, make sure he's guilty before you condemn. And second, just who's side are you on? We aren't exactly flooded with liberty minded politicians in Washington you know.
He is better than either of the two guys who represent me.
But he is NO RON PAUL.
Not even close.
other issues, whether he is a progressive or communist, as long as he supports 911 conspiracies?
A lot of people here don't really get liberty. They're on board for sticking it to the (boogey)man.
I wouldn't elect Rand as dogcatcher. He has proven to be a disloyal, disrespectful neocon.
Ron has been ignored, marginalized, smeared, and/or mocked by the mainstream media during his entire political career, but has handled it with nothing but grace and class. Rand gets asked one question he doesn't like and he throws a shitfit and calls for the reporter to be fired. See what I mean?
The fact that he wouldn't stand by his own father during a tough time in the campaign tells me all I need to know about Rand. Keep blindly supporting him, homers - he'll never get my vote.